Comments on: ZNF project closes — why I abandoned it and PHP http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/ Confused thoughts of a computer scientist refugee in Norway Thu, 22 Jul 2010 16:04:59 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Shekhar http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/comment-page-1/#comment-109 Shekhar Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:02:21 +0000 http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/#comment-109 I gone through your framework and article today during a search. The approach of php towards object orientation is half hearted. Some time they go with the C++ Style Then go with Java Style. Exception handling,variable scope and data-type strictness etc are are very confusing. I used try-catch but no exception was cached although i have coded to get an exception. Their are may times i have seen that i have declare a local variable inside a loop and i am able to get its value out side it. So my better thought is to go with some other language like java and .net at least when it comes for object oriented approach. I gone through your framework and article today during a search.
The approach of php towards object orientation is half hearted.

Some time they go with the C++ Style Then go with Java Style.

Exception handling,variable scope and data-type strictness etc are are very confusing.

I used try-catch but no exception was cached although i have coded to get an exception.

Their are may times i have seen that i have declare a local variable inside a loop and i am able to get its value out side it.

So my better thought is to go with some other language like java and .net at least when it comes for object oriented approach.

]]> By: Edoe http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/comment-page-1/#comment-95 Edoe Fri, 16 May 2008 22:05:29 +0000 http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/#comment-95 It's a pity that such a promising framework is declared finished. I follow your opinion that it was not wise by the PHP team how they handled the PHP5 transition. But I don't see why this should render the whole developement useless. Looking at Symfony, Cake and the like shows that a real huge request is there. - Think about joining the party again! It’s a pity that such a promising framework is declared finished. I follow your opinion that it was not wise by the PHP team how they handled the PHP5 transition. But I don’t see why this should render the whole developement useless. Looking at Symfony, Cake and the like shows that a real huge request is there. – Think about joining the party again!

]]> By: MikeT http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/comment-page-1/#comment-90 MikeT Sun, 09 Mar 2008 22:01:27 +0000 http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/#comment-90 I share many of your grievances with PHP4. One of my great laments about web development outside the enterprise is that we have a real "tool ghetto." If you think the situation is bad for PHP, just look at what Python developers are forced to deal with. It actually has many mature modules for things like database access, but most hosting services can't be bothered to install the compiled packages! Python cannot even effectively get off the ground because the hosts won't touch good modules that are not even questioned when they are written for Perl or PHP! I think the only way that things can move forward is if the PHP team, Zend or Google sponsor a few dozen good student developers to do a serious port of the key PHP applications to PHP6 when it comes out. I share many of your grievances with PHP4. One of my great laments about web development outside the enterprise is that we have a real “tool ghetto.” If you think the situation is bad for PHP, just look at what Python developers are forced to deal with. It actually has many mature modules for things like database access, but most hosting services can’t be bothered to install the compiled packages! Python cannot even effectively get off the ground because the hosts won’t touch good modules that are not even questioned when they are written for Perl or PHP!

I think the only way that things can move forward is if the PHP team, Zend or Google sponsor a few dozen good student developers to do a serious port of the key PHP applications to PHP6 when it comes out.

]]> By: Exile http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/comment-page-1/#comment-88 Exile Tue, 04 Mar 2008 23:54:01 +0000 http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/#comment-88 Hi Alessandro, I'm sharing your opinion about the way PHP "evolved". Its a pity when such good development efforts 're going to waste just because of "wrong" platform or language. Good luck, man. Hi Alessandro,

I’m sharing your opinion about the way PHP “evolved”.

Its a pity when such good development efforts ‘re going to waste just because of “wrong” platform or language. Good luck, man.

]]> By: Robin http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Robin Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:12:50 +0000 http://www.alessandrorossini.org/2007/11/15/znf-project-closes-why-i-abandoned-it-and-php/#comment-20 Hello Alessandro, I want to say thanks for ur investigation of time onto ZNF. Me discover this Framework some month ago and it was the only one which fit's to my needs. Im impressed by this and me like the codestyle, for me itz very transparent. I wish you much of luck for the future. so im german, sorry for my english :) good luck, Robin. Hello Alessandro,

I want to say thanks for ur investigation of time onto ZNF. Me discover this Framework some month ago and it was the only one which fit’s to my needs. Im impressed by this and me like the codestyle, for me itz very transparent. I wish you much of luck for the future. so im german, sorry for my english :)

good luck,
Robin.

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